From the 2006 Mobile Bible Conference HOW DID JESUS DO ďTHE FATHERíS WILLĒhttp://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=3633.0
So weíre talking about where Christ came from.
It said in the beginning there was nothing physical we know of,
and God created the heavens and the earth and the whole universe.
What was it like before creation when there was only God?
First of all we donít know that there was ďonlyĒ God.
There was no ďheaven and earth,Ē but that doesnít prove all was total void.
Was God alone in a giant space of darkness? What darkness?
He created the darkness (Isa. 45:7).
God is not darkness. God is in perpetual light, Heís the Father of light, the Father of spirit.
There is no darkness in Him, there is no night only bright (Rev. 21:23; James 1:23; 1 John 1:5).
God is light; there is no darkness in Him forever.
This is from the Nashville Conference 2007, 'WHO AND WHAT IS JESUS? & WHO IS HIS FATHER?' This might be of help to understand this as well. http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4472.msg37591.html#msg37591
A lot of scientist use to believe that matter was eternal. But the last 20 years, Iím being told, by the things Iím reading, that the majority of scientist now, definitely believe there was a creation. Now they think that creation started with a big bang, but there was a time when this didnít all exist, and it came into existence. From where? Well they donít know.
Thatís why I gave you these scripture ďall is out of God.Ē God is spirit, God is invisible. Scripture say all that can be seen, was made from things that are not seen. They didnít come out of nothing, they came out of what is not seen. Who is not seen? God is not seen!
And even this Dr. Schroeder Iím reading now, I really like some of his stuff. I think he is really trying to see the truth of the scripture and science. But heís got this thing of, Ďwell where did everything come from?... God created it from nothing.' Now he knows that's not scientific. How do you create something from nothing? 'Well, God did it, He can do anything.'
This is what the scripture teaches and we do know what the scripture say about this. We read in the 11 chapter of Hebrews, and how would the writer of Hebrews 2000 years ago know this?
Heb 11:1 Now faith is substance of things hoped forÖ
No it's not, itís the "conviction" or Concordance has it "assumption." You assume what God says is correct. You 'assume' it, you donít have proof. If you had proof you wouldnít need faith. Faith is when you believe something that you donít have the absolute proof for. Thatís what faith is.
Heb 11:2 If the elders of old obtained a good report.
v. 3 By faith we understand that the worlds have been framed by the word of God, so that things that is seen were not made out of things which do appear
(which are visible).
So the things that are seen are not made from things that are visible. Wow, how did they know that? They didnít even have microscopes by then, they didnít know that when you got smaller than an atom you didnít have solid anymore, you have energy. You canít see energy, you canít see electricity, and you canít even see the wind. But the Bible knew everything was made of... itís "made out of things that do not appear."
Bishopís Bible says;
Heb 11:3 Through fayth, we vnderstande that the worldes (it two words, wor - des and it really means the man age, a were-wolf is a man wolf, so wer + des is an man age, it use to be 2 syllable word -worldes, Bishop has it in old English) were ordeined by the word of God, and that thynges whiche are seene, were made of thynges whiche were not seene.
They were made from something werenít they, just not seen and what does the Bible tell us? All is from God, right? All is out of God, you have to believe that! You got to believe the scriptures! As long as you believe the scripture, I donít think you will find any contradictions, anywhere.
mercy, peace and love