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Now Rom. 2, I had trouble understanding a couple of these verses for a long time.
Rom 2:1 “Therefore you have no excuse, O man…” Do you know what Paul had in mind when he said “O man?” He’s talking about the carnal of the carnal, he’s talking about humanity in the world, about total uncovering, total carnality. O man, you know he uses that phrase again in Rom. 9:20, “But who are you, O man, that answers against God,” see. God can form man anyway He wants to, who are you O man.
Rom 2:1 “ Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself…”
Is this beam and speck start clearing up a little bit now?
Rom 2:1 “… for you who judge practice the same things…”
You know it only appears that you see a beam in your brother's eye, but if you could see clearly instead of that speck or mote, you would see that he too has a beam in his own eye. But you can’t judge him with a beam in your eye, you can’t even see what his faults are, for crying out loud, you have so many yourself. But this is what always got me.
Rom 2:1 “… for you who judge practice the same things.”
Isn’t it easy to condemn this Hansan guy for killing and raping these little children. Isn’t it easy to almost want to spit in his face, isn’t it easy. This says, For you to judge you do the same thing. Oh come on, I never raped or killed any little children, has any body else here? None of you have done that. But it says;
Rom 2:1 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; you judge another you do the same things. v. 2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. v. 3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?
Twice he mentions it, “You judge another you do the same things.” How can this be? I mean come on, I never raped a child, how can this be? Alright let’s go back to chapter 1.
Rom 1:18 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of MEN…”
That word men means humans, human kind or mankind, you could almost put the human race there.
Rom 1:18 “…who by their unrighteousness suppress (means hold back) the truth. v. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.”
There is a conscience among almost all humanity.
Uday and Qusay (2 sons of Saddam Hussein) they take this pretty girl off a college campus in Iraq. She was engaged to be married, he takes her home and he uses her like a whore. She fights back, because she’s angry that he would do this to her, because she’s engaged to marry another man. And finally he starves his Dobermans for 2 or so weeks, that they are just ravenous and crazy. And he tortures her, not only does he rapes her over and over for days or weeks, than he tortures her. Than when she is so beaten down and frightened, he turns the dogs loose on her and they eat her. Saddam Hussein, who is one of the most corrupt human beings to ever draw breath on this planet, said and I quote, “My son Uday is immoral.” Now people do stuff like that and Paul says if you judge them, you do the same things. I don’t know, let’s read a little more.
Rom 1:21 “because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. v. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, v. 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. v. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, v. 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator…”
Oh yes, the whole church is doing that. The church looks upon God as an old man, it says He has long gray hair... the arm of God... hand of God... and eye of God. They say He has arms and hands, eyes and everything. They believe that is all literal, that God is an old man and even if they don’t put Him in the very physical image of a man they certainly do mentally and morally. I mean they gave God a totally perverted and demented personality and character and then they turn it around and say that demented, evil, foul attitude of this God of theirs is to be worshipped. You don’t see how sick this is? You don’t see the utter sickness of Christianity? It is so sick! And yet millions of them are doing wonderful works and good deeds and helping the poor and doing all these things. There’s got to be something there, you know Satan appears as an angel of light. The "woman" appears as an angel of light decked with gold and silver, riding on the beast. She looks pretty good, she’s wealthy, she’s not some slut off the street, not this whore. This whore is wealthy you know and all decked with silver and gold. You read that back in Rev. 11.
Continuing on.
Rom 1:24 “Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies between themselves,”
Notice it said God gave them up, well you say that this is the work of God and it is, God gave them up to uncleanness. How did He do it though? People accuse me day and night on my site, they say, 'you say God makes people rape little children, is that what you are saying Ray?' They know I’m not, but they like to gleam from my teachings, that’s the bottom line of what your saying. “God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts…” God doesn’t have to make people sin, they volunteer, they’re sinning machines. I’ve said so many times mankind is sinning machines.
I think it was Hosea Ballou, Pastor of the Universalist Church and society of Rockberry, and a writer back in 1700s or some time ago. But I think it was Hosea Ballou who came up with the analogy and it’s a very fine analogy. He said God is Like the rays of the sun and Jesus is, like I mentioned yesterday, that Jesus is the Son of God. But not only the S-o-n, but the s-u-n of God, the brightness of the sun, you see. So we liken God to the rays of the sun, this bright radiant warmth that gives light and heat and causes things to grow and all these wonderful things from the rays of the sun. But ironically in the evening, when the sun goes down it gets colder and towards morning it gets damp. There’s often times dew on the grass, wet, damp and cold. Aha, I think I have God figured out now. When the sun is up, it’s not damp, it’s not wet, it’s not cold, it’s not dark. When the sun goes down it’s cold, damp and dark. Therefore the sun is the cause of dampness, cold and darkness. How do you like that? Cause when the sun’s up you don’t have those things, and when the sun goes down you have them. Therefore this darkness is caused by the sun. No, that’s wrong. That’s the way some people understand theology. It’s when the sun is gone the automatic results is, it’s dark, cold and damp. The sun didn’t cause it. It’s when the sun comes up that the sun takes it away. It’s not when the sun goes down it causes it to come. It always been there, it’s the sun that takes it away, it’s not the sun causes it to come and that’s the way God is.
When God removes His beams of light from mankind they become cold and damp and dark. Is that hard to understand? It's automatically, God does not have to supernaturally make it dark on one side of the earth when the sun is on the other side. God doesn’t have to do that it’s automatic, and God doesn’t have to force anybody to sin, it’s automatic. Yes God brings about the circumstances, “Wherefore God gave them up…” yes He did, He’s behind it. But He did it through the lusts of their own hearts. He didn’t force anybody to do anything.
He did not have to force Hansan to torture these little children, to kill them or to rape them or whatever all he did with them. All He had to do was let him have the opportunity and he would do it. This man had that mentality, okay.
Rom 1:25 “who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. v. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.”
You know what? Let me just tell you something. Do you know why there are more homosexuals now? I have so many homosexuals write to me and say, ‘Ray you are one of the few people on this earth that doesn’t understand that we’re not caused, we don’t choose this, we are ‘born’ with this. You know I will say, you know how come there were a whole lot less homosexuals back at World War II, than there are today? What happened there, with this ‘born’ theory? Now don’t get me wrong, there were some back in the 40’s, but not many, not like today.
SIN BEGETS SIN! There certainly are a whole lot more lesbians, then there ever were back in the 40’s or 50’s. The more people who are doing it, the easier it is for those who have any inclinations, to just jump right in there. Everybody’s doing it, it’s acceptable now, and why even the government can’t discriminate against you, so let’s do it. See, perversion begets perversion.
Rom 1:27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. v. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind (a mind void of judgment), to do those things which are not fitting; v. 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, v. 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, v. 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;
I mean what else can you add to this? There’s nothing else that you can add to this. Paul knew what he was doing when he went on and on and on, he knew what he was doing. He’s talking about you, O man!
Rom 1:32 “who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things, are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.” Rom 2:1 “Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.”
What such things? All of this filth! Well some might say I didn’t see child molesters in there, and it didn’t say how old these women and these men were. Don’t think they’re not in there, there in there.
Turn to Genesis 6:5, “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
Wow that’s a mouthful isn’t it. Let’s read it again. “And God saw that the wickedness of man (mankind, humanity) was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
Wow there’s a lot of badness there, that’s a lot of bad stuff. What did Christ say.
Luke 17:26 “And as it was in the days of Noah, so it also shall be...”
You know this whole thing has so crept up on us that many of us haven’t even seen it coming. Don’t even see it now. Don’t realize the extent of the perversion and evil in the world. But it’s here, it creeps up.
You know one generation fades into another and they just kinda accept what is here when they were born, right. Our great grand parents, most of them are pretty long gone now. But if they could see today, they would just be shocked. And they were carnal too, but they would be shocked at today’s perversion. It’s pretty bad.
Rom 2:3 “And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?”
He’s saying absolutely not. Now the whole council of God, the sum of Thy Word is true. Let’s get to it here. Now you are all familiar with the scripture, “for where there is no law there is no transgression (infraction of the law)," (Rom 4:15), right? And it says the law was added, because of a lot of sin. Now God made codes that said, your not going to get away with this any more, this is bad and this is bad and this is really bad, so they won’t get away with things anymore. So they added the law to make sin really appear to be sinful. But notice what James says, and maybe we never got this before.
James 2:7 “Do they not blaspheme that noble name by which you are called? v. 8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well; v. 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. v. 10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all (or it can read liable to the punishment, the penalty).”
Now let’s just think about this a little bit. We always thought about this verse on a level about here. You know you break one, you’re guilty of them all. We thought like, 'well I guess if you committed adultery and God said you shouldn’t, so I guess you dishonor God and so you break the first commandment or something like that.' But does this verse mean what it says, if you break one, you’re guilty of all? Are you ahead of me yet? Do you know where I’m going with this? Some are figuring it out.
If you break one point of God’s royal Law, you are guilty of all. I said yesterday I want us to see why we really need to repent, and see just how serious it is in God’s sight. I know God will eventually take everybody to be where they need to go, but sometimes God accelerates things, by the foolishness of preaching. That’s what I am doing. Maybe you're going to see something here that you never conceived of before. That is if you break one point of His law... we’re not talking about the spiritual law here, you know how Christ made the law so much higher than Moses' law. One says don’t commit this sin, Christ said don’t even THINK it, okay. Much higher law. If you break one point, your GUILIY of all. Now back to Romans.
Rom. 2:1 “Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.”
How can Paul say that everybody in here is a child molester and a murderer. How can he say that? Because if you break one point of the law you’re guilty of all. Let me ask you, is it against the law of God to sexually molest and kill little children? It’s against the law isn’t it. If you offend and break this law, you are guilty of what? ALL! Which includes sexually molesting and killing little children or am I a heretic. Now I didn’t say that we did that, because I know I didn’t and I know you didn’t. It doesn’t say, if you break one point you ‘commit,’ breaking of all the law. It says you’re ‘guilty’ of all. You're guilty of all and here’s what we have to understand.
The only reason we haven’t literally molested little children and cut their head off, is because GOD PREVENTS IT! One scripture says God frames evil, you know what it is when you put a frame around something, you know frame it. He frames evil, so it won’t go totally out of control. What appears to be out of control today in the world, is actually framed. God knows how far it’s going. Nothing is out of control.
How many of you have ever come this close (thumb and index fingers together) to death and was just instantly spared? How many came really close to doing something really dumb and embarrassing, then something happened and spared you.
I went out on a Sat. night after I had about 3-4 shots of Scotch. In my new Cadillac coupe de ville and I was looking for trouble, and didn’t find it, I’m serious. I was ready, had my best blazer on, had my Austrian Kangaroo boots on and went out cruising. You know to bars or whatever looking for trouble, you know what I mean, and didn’t find it. It was so frustrating to go home alone, what am I a social failure. You know, but thank God.
Thank God, there was maybe many, many times when I was hell bent on destruction and God prevented me. Twice, not once but twice, I pulled up at a intersection and I looked to the left and I looked to the right and I pulled out. Swoosh... I mean we were so close the paint changed color without hitting. I thought, well I just died, God except for Your grace, that’s when I died, right there. Twice I did that. One time I looked and I floored it, so I was coming on across there. Swoosh... I mean I was shaking, I just died, except for the grace of God, I just died. How many times did that happen? Well, we don’t even know that it is close, you see.
So don’t take credit for the fact that you didn’t molest children and kill them. You weren’t lead down that evil alley, you weren’t born into the family that would cause you to go down that alley. You weren’t always frustrated to the point where you were just hell bent on just doing some evil, foul thing like that. God prevented it.
God makes vessels of honor and dishonor. He makes vessels of dishonor and then has mercy on the other vessels. Some He hardens and some He has mercy on. He has had mercy on everybody in this room. If you have never killed anybody or molested children or done any of these horrendous things. He has great mercy on your life. Now we need to be thankful for that and not assume we don’t have very much to repent of. We have to repent of what? "O man," that’s what we have to repent of.
Whatever "O man" is. That’s what we are, because "O man" is Adam. "O man" came out of Adam. Where did you come from, some place else? We’re all out of Adam. And what does Adam do? "Being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters" and on and on. Wow, this is "O man" out of Adam. This is what he does and only by the grace of God, some of us didn’t have to go that route.
We can repent now turn wholeheartedly to God. So be thankful we’re not this Hansan character, who killed and molested those children. Now he's looking to lethal injection and what comes after lethal injection? THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Do you know how blessed you are, to be able to sit here and hear about this stuff and we don’t have to be apart of it? But some of us are superficial. We only take this a little serious. It’s like when I started out. Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord, whosoever goes through that door, whosoever believes. Let’s take the first one, we found out what calling on the name of the Lord involves. End of audio
Pt.2 Transcribed by Kat
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