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What I wanted to do today…. I’m starting to get into it now, though all this other stuff is good. What is grace? He saves us by grace, what is it? Basically grace means gratuitous, okay. In Spanish we say gracias. What does that mean? Thank you. Grace means gracious, it’s gratuitous, a favor, it’s a gift, it’s free, gracias, okay. But it doesn’t end there with just being gracious, favor, gift and so on.
How in a theological way, do we apply the word grace, when we say we are saved by grace? What does that mean, we are saved by grace? How does it save us? What is the connection there, between being saved by the word grace? How does the word save us? Well if the word grace means gratuitous or free, then we could say we are freely saved or it means a favor or gift. We are saved as a gift from God. It’s a gift from God, He saves us. That is true, but let’s ask this question….. look in Luke, this is speaking of Jesus Christ.
Luke 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong, filled with wisdom: and the GRACE of God was upon Him.
What does that mean? If grace is what saves us from our sins, if that’s the big thing and that is what is taught in the church, you know we’re saved from our sins, we’re saved from death, we’re saved by grace. It saves us ‘from’ something doesn’t it? If you are saved…. if someone is drowning in the ocean and you save him, you saved him from drowning in the ocean. If a fireman saves somebody in a burning house, they saved him from being burned in the house, right.
If we are saved by grace, what is it saving us from? What did Christ need to be saved from? Did He need to be pardoned for anything? Did grace cover His sins or something? No.
Well there is another aspect of grace. You know we have all these words, gracious, graciousness, gratuitous, liberal, benefit, favor, gift, joy, pleasure, thanks, all of these are words.
But even Strong’s uses a phrase defining grace that I think if we don’t see this we are missing a lot. It ties in with the thing that I wrote 5 years ago or whenever, in part 3 Lake of fire. It’s where I say grace is a verb.
Here is the phrase Dr. Strong says for the definition of grace - DIVINE INFLUENCE UPON THE HEART. Wow, what about that! Grace is divine influence from God upon our hearts.
Well now, did Israel have divine influence from God upon there hearts? No. Listen the most times you will find grace in the Old Testament talking about anything or anybody, it’s Moses. It’s always Moses saying, ‘oh Lord I hope I find grace in Your eyes.’ He just means favor. He says, don’t be mad at me, let me do right - let me find mercy - let me find favor - let me find safety - don’t get angry God, let me find grace in your eyes, it’s in there about 8 times.
Never once in the Old Testament is anybody ever talked about being spiritually saved or received salvation by grace. It’s just not there. I mean even King David, if God had divine influence on his heart, the way it’s suppose to be, why would he go to his death bed squeaking out his last words to his son, Solomon. Telling him how he wants him to kill all his enemies and make it bloody. Does that sound like divine influence upon your heart, from God? It doesn’t sound like that to me.
That’s what grace is, divine - divinity - God - Godly influence on your heart. But now we’ve taken grace out of the realm of a noun, into a verb, it’s doing something you see. Of course I said that a long time ago.
Jesus didn’t need grace for any pardon of anything. But did He need the influence of God, divine influence on His heart? Absolutely. That’s why He could live the way He did, accomplish what He did, never give in to wrong motives and temptations and all that. He had this divine influence of God on His heart ALL THE TIME.
So then we read Paul says, “But by the grace of God I am what I am: and His grace (divine influence upon the heart) which was bestowed upon me was not found vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I….” (1 Cor 15:10)
“Yet not I” what? He said I labored, you know what that means, work. I’ve ‘worked’ harder than all of them, yet it wasn’t I that works... right? Notice it wasn’t I that was doing the work, but the grace of God which was with me. The grace of God... what?
These things are all understood, notice it, I am what I am by His divine influence upon my heart, which He bestowed upon me and it was not in vain. But I labored more abundantly than they all labored, yet not I labored, but the grace of God labored. That’s what it’s saying, can you see that? So what is the grace of God doing in Paul’s heart? It LABORS, it works.
It’s not some ‘thing’ like, ‘well I have the grace of God, that save me.’ They take that word and just tack it on the wall, ‘grace’ there it is, I got it. God said I got to have it and there it is ‘grace.’ It can’t be in a book, it can’t be on the wall, it’s got to be IN YOUR HEART. What does it do there? IT LABORS - IT WORKS.
Now let me read that again.
1 Cor 15: 10 “But by the grace of God I am what I am: and His grace (divine influence on the heart) which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all (labored): yet not I (labored), but the grace of God (labored) which was with me (labored).”
There it is, the grace of God…. labors. In the Lake of Fire series I showed that grace is a verb. We learn that when we are judged we are chastened of the Lord, 1 Cor 11: 32. Chastening defines how God judges us. Now we are about to learn something very profound here, if we can get it.
Titus 2:11 “For the grace of God that brings salvation hath appeared to all men, v. 12 Teaching us….”
What is doing the teaching? Grace is doing the teaching. It’s laboring - it’s teachings - it’s the divine influence of God on our heart, it‘s teaching us. So it’s...
v. 12 ...TEACHING us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world (eon - age);
So when it says God judges us by chastening us in 1 Cor. 11: 32, the word chasten there is the Greek word ‘paideuō.‘ Then when God says He graces us, by ‘teaching us’ (Titus 2:12), the word teaching is the same word paideuo and it means - to labor, to work, to chasten, to punish, to teach, to educate. There is like a dozen different words that this means, this ‘teaching.’ That’s what it does, it actually does something. And the same way what it does for us, it will eventually do for the world.
Now that verse tells us that teaching us, denies ungodliness and so on. That one word alone covers everything good and righteous that we could ever do or think. I mean if it’s godly it’s right and good, it’s all in that one word. Notice that this is a godly man, that says it all, I mean if he really is godly, he’s God like. You can’t be God like and Satan like at the same time, you know that does not fit. So this is a remarkable thing that grace teaches - educates - punishes if necessary - schools us - programs us and it teaches us to live godly- soberly - justly and righteously. The grace of God teaches us to do all those things and God says His judgments chastens us. It’s the same list of things, it’s the same chastening - gracing, they are the same thing.
Now we learn that we get the heart and unbelief here, 2 things. Oh that there were such a heart in them (Deu 5:29). Then in Hebrews 3:12 it says, I hope that it’s not found in you such an ‘evil’ heart of unbelief. Those 2 go hand in hand.
There is one other aspect to this thing of grace. We saw it a little bit in Hebrews 3:12 that says, “… an evil heart of unbelief…” Now you all understand that in the Bible when it talks about believe, that’s the verb. Faith is the noun. Faith and believe are the same Greek word, they’re the same. What is faith? It means to believe. If you believe, you have what? Faith. They are both the same word, one is a noun, one is a verb, that’s the only difference.
Look at Eph 2:8 “For by grace you are saved….” Here is the problem, the church doesn’t know what that is and they don’t teach it and they don’t have it.
They think it is a word that if you say, ‘I love the sound of that word, yes I like that word, I want to appropriate that word, God says we are saved by grace, I like that, I want that word.’ ‘Okay I’m saved by grace, God says I’m saved by grace, and that’s God’s word, I’m going to put it on a t-shirt…. saved by grace, there it is I’ve quoted scripture.’
They don’t know what it means though. They think it’s a noun, to them it’s like a gift. Like here’s a gift, ‘oh for me.’ Yes. ‘Well what did I do to deserve this?‘ Nothing it’s free. ‘Oh a gift for me how nice.’ That’s how they look at grace, as a gift and underserved gift. That’s all it is to them, a gift.
That’s true, it is a gift, but sometimes a gift involves doing something. Let me give you an example.
Suppose my wife buys me a gift for my birthday. It’s a gift, it’s not something you have to do or work for. It’s a gift, it’s free no strings attached, it’s a free gift. So what is this free gift? It’s a Nordic Track or a exercise bike or whatever. Well thank you for the gift, does it mean I have to use it (chuckle). I’d just stick it in the corner and it’ll be there for 5 years. When people come over and say, ‘what’s that.’ I’d say, it’s a gift. They would say, ‘have you ever used it?’ I’d say, oh no, I don’t use it, I just look at it. It’s a wonderful gift, my wife is so sweet, she bought me that gift. But no, I don’t use it.
Well guess what? Grace is a gift, but it’s got to be USED. Listen when something influences something, that means it does something. If you are inspired about something, you either think or write or do something, that’s the proof of the inspiration. So if something influences you it makes you think, say, do, work or something, are there is no influence. We just read that faith is divine influence upon the heart and that grace teaches us the same that judging chastens us. It’s the same Greek word.
It’s interesting it says in Eph. 2:8, “for we are saved by grace….” Well that’s great, that’s wonderful (period). No, no period... comma, “THROUGH FAITH.” Well shucks, we’re saved by grace through faith, okay. Well what does that mean? ‘Through’ is a channel.
It’s like if you want to go from France to England and you can’t swim very well and you don’t have an airplane, you can take the train. So this train is the grace, but how is the train going to get to England from France? The tunnel. They have a tunnel and that‘s the channel. So you’ve got the vehicle and you have the channel to get there. Without the channel to get there, well you can’t take a train across the water. But they’ve got tracks in the tunnel and that’s the channel ‘through’ it.
That’s the way grace and faith is. Grace is this influence, but faith is the channel and a channel always does something, it channels something - shows motion - shows a destination. So there’s a destination to being divinely influence by God on your heart. That’s the grace and that’s free, it’s a gift. But it doesn’t mean there is nothing to be done. It’s like my wife’s exercise bike, it’s a gift, it’s free, but it’s meant to be used, you see.
So faith is the channel and faith is believing. So you just have to believe, that’s something in your mind, that’s simple enough. I accept your free gift to save me and I believe it, that’s it, good, all done. No, not quite. Because we read, “ The sum of Your word is truth…” (Psalms 119: 160(CLV). You have to put it all together.
In Luke 6: 46 Christ says, “Why call you Me Lord, Lord.” Listen, that’s faith. If you call Him Lord, it means you believe He’s Lord, right, that’s faith. So He says, why do you pretend to have faith in Me, by calling Me Lord, but you don’t do what I say? See it’s a false faith, “you do not do what I say.” It is a contradiction to say, you have faith and you don’t do anything. Notice the rest of this verse in Ephesians.
Eph 2:8 for by grace (a gratuitous gift - divine influence upon the heart) are you saved through faith(believing and doing God‘s will); and that (faith) not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; v. 9 not of (our) works, less any man should boast (you boast when you do your own works). v. 10 For we are HIS workmanship (His achievement - His works), created in Christ Jesus unto good works,
Do you get that? Where it says “not of works,” but “for good works.” Wait a minute is that a contradiction? No, “not of (our) works” but “for (His) good works.” There are works, they’re just not ours. But we are of His workmanship. Workmanship has the word ‘work.’ The Concordant translates it ‘achievement.’ When you want to achieve something it takes work. Who’s doing the work here? God is doing the work. What is that work? Divine influence upon the heart and then you do things.
Eph 2:10 “… created in Christ Jesus UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God has afore ordained that we should walk in them.”
So there are works.
Rom 8:28 “And we know that God WORKS all (things), together for the good…”
Then verse 29 “….predestined us to be conformed into the image of His Son.”
That is the whole thing. What is the purpose of works? To be conformed into the image of His Son. What image is that? The image of God. So what is it that God is creating humanity in? His image. Was it completed? No, it was not good, it was not so. But it will be one day. One day it will be so and it will be good. God is changing the carnal physical human mind into His spiritual divine mind.
James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but have not works? Can faith save him?
He ask the rhetorical question, “can faith save us?” Of course the answer is no. That’s interesting, you know faith is talked a lot about, as we are justified by faith, especially in Paul’s writing, Rom 3:30, Gal 3:8. We are justified by faith, but nowhere does it say in the scripture that we are saved by faith, nowhere.
We are saved by grace. It’s free, gratuitous gift from God, but it does something. It teaches - it chastens - it educates - it is divine influence upon the seat of our emotions - thinking - plans - purpose - goals - aspirations and everything else. It divinely influences that heart, you can’t help it, it does it.
This just smacks free will right in the teeth. According to true free will, God can’t make you do anything, you have to choose it on your own. How can you choose to do good unless God divinely influences your heart? You see, you can’t. But the second you say He does, you’ve taken away man’s free will. Now God is doing it. What an evil contradiction this thing of free will and free choices is.
So he says in James, can faith save us? Of course the answer is no. We’re justified by faith, but we are not saved by faith.
So when you come right down to it, when I asked you, what is grace and what is faith? You’re tossing around these words and basically you’re all right. Bob said love and it’s true, it’s love, grace is love. Faith is love. All these things ultimately are love, because God is love. Whatever all these other things are that go out from love, you bring them back in, and it all comes down to one thing, it’s LOVE.
So we have the word grace... we have the word faith. Each one has shades of different meanings and so on. But they both do the same thing, don’t they.
Christ says if you call Me Lord and Master, if you believe that, that’s faith... believing. If you believe that I am your Lord and Master, why don’t you do what I say? You see that? Faith is doing.
James says, faith without works or faith without doing is dead. Of course some thinks that that contradicts Paul, who said we’re justified by faith not of works. But that is too big of a subject to get into here. But, no they are not contradicting each other. One is emphasized one thing over another, more than the other. But they both involved the same thing.
They both quote that Abraham lived by faith. That’s what it was all about faith. Paul says Abraham had that faith before he was even circumcised, before he obeyed that ritual to be circumcised and so on. James emphasized that, how did we know Abraham had faith? Because God told him to sacrifice his son and he brought the knife and was ready to do it. He proved his faith.
But they both do something, all these things, they do something. If we think of these words in theological terms all the time, you’ll never know what they mean. They are very simple, okay. Faith is you BELIEVE what God says, therefore you DO what God says.
Grace is a gift, you don’t have it. Now this is something you can’t conjure up, it’s a gift of God. It’s always the grace OF God, it comes from God, there is nothing you can do. You say, ‘well what about the faith we’ve got, that comes from us.’ No no no, it says in Eph 2: 8-10 “… faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELF, it is the gift of God;”
The faith it’s a gift, the grace it’s all a gift, everything is a gift. It’s all a gift of God. It’s all faith, it’s all grace, they are all one thing. Grace causes you to live rightly. What does faith do? If you believe God, you do what He says. It is virtually the same thing.
Now what is the goal? To make you like Christ! What is Christ? He is in the image of God. So what does God want from us? He wants us to be in His image. Physical image? No, spiritual image. It is a spiritual thing that God is doing.
So then we have a whole host of words, which I’m going to cover in the next installment of the Lake of Fire. We have words like repentance, now some people have a basic understanding of what repentance means. Regeneration, what does that mean? What about renewing - redemption - remission - reformation - condensation - restitution - born again - holiness - transgression - intersession - conformation - salvation - damnation - condemnation - tribulation - indignation - reconciliation - justification - predestination - propitiation - sanctification. What in the world does all that stuff mean? Could you even begin to start giving me definitions of all that stuff? I’m here to tell you, no not one. But let me tell you something, most theologians could not either. Well, since most of them went to a seminary and they could define those words. But the one thing that they wouldn’t get, and I know this for a fact, the one thing that they wouldn’t get or understand or couldn’t teach you is, that they all mean the same thing.
IT‘S ALL ONE THING.
Everything is heading in one direction. God is taking man through this hell on earth for a purpose. It’s necessary, but it all leads to one place. He’s going to have an end result for the work of His hand. He’s going to accomplish what He wants to accomplish out of the human race. But all these words, indignation - reconciliation - justification - predestination - propitiation - sanctification, they all mean the same thing. That’s what I’m going to show, in just one little segment of the next installment of the Lake of Fire.
So the more you study these scriptures, the more God opens your eyes to these things. It’s not that complicated. He only made it sound complicated, so that those who won’t obey, then it’s just all this fuzzy sanctimonious stuff that nobody can ever figure out. It’s not that hard. And all the words they are just different aspects of the same thing.
It’s not that hard when you understand the basic parable of the Bible. That is God is making us into His image, through all this pain and suffering and everything. It all has a purpose whether we understand it at the time or not. It all has a purpose and it’s making us better and stronger and so on, for the end result.
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